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- From: koren@hpsrk.fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
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- Subject: Re: New Press Release!
- Date: 25 Mar 1996 12:19:26 -0700
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- In-reply-to: mlelstv@serpens.rhein.de's message of 24 Mar 1996 11:23:42 +0100
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- mlelstv@serpens.rhein.de (Michael van Elst) wrote:
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- > the working set of the process. As soon as your working set exceeds
- > real memory (or the sum of all working sets) you start thrashing.
-
- Sure, that's true. But that isn't what you said the first time around.
- What Mike Meyer and I are pointing out is that simply *using* more
- memory than your physical RAM is a necessary but *not* a sufficient
- condition for thrashing. Shucks, in a decent VM implementation you can
- use more RAM than you have, and never have even a single page read from
- the hard disk.
-
- Here's what you said the first time around:
-
- > VM is just efficient when programs allocate RAM that they
- > do not need.
-
- Which is not true. That's what my "Err, no" was about. I should
- appologize for being "curt", but I see this misconception posted all the
- time. Programs cannot always predict what will be in their working set,
- so they cannot arbitrarily chose not to allocate RAM they "don't need".
-
- > pictures larger than real memory_ I am pretty sure that the whole
- > picture is part of the working set.
-
- It may not be. Many times I load some huge image, but I'm going to
- spend the next 30 minutes working only on the upper left hand corner.
- For that time, only 1/4 of the image is in my working set. In fact, I
- do this all the time with huge print resolution images that won't fit in
- my paltry 16 Mb of RAM.
-
- - steve
-